Jeffrey Chalmers: outwardly sincerely, say the right words. Its unbelievable how we give man so much power. Either you go as missionary TO the church or you worship safely outside the church. During legal proceedings following Newmans termination, families were shocked to discover Whites accommodation of another pedophile. Add to this there is one couple I had started avoiding due to bad vibes before the virus. The Church should be setting an example in their communities of obeying those in authority during this public health crisis. I opt for (1) and (2) time away. Kanakuk has a large footprint on the Branson landscape.It adds to the aura of the family-friendly atmosphere the region tries to paint.Its important to tourism and the revenue it generates for area businesses.Local authorities might be tempted to protect it if its just something to do with a little hanky panky out there it wouldnt look good if bad stuff hit the news, you know.

I was in Boy Scouts and never knew of or heard of any perversions with the leaders. Where I live, deep in Trumpland, politics invaded everything, even the grocery stores this past year. And, rightfully so.As for bringing this ordeal to the attention of the national media, what good would that do? Correct me if wrong but the SBC would place itself on the other end of the church identity continuum. Further, if the whole of the Bible tells us anything, it tells us that NO ONE is above serious failure, or worse that is why the greater the stakes, the more oversight, do not take anything for granted is needed This guy must not let the Bible really sink in.. So wrong. Sad that they wont have good camp memories, but many children are having bad memories. Dont know if hes still around.). I knew something was wrong with Pete, but how do you tell that to an entire kamp that loves him? Truth. If their child fell and broke an arm, would they have the arm set, or just let the child grow up with a misshapen arm?
No single leader I could see, just a bunch of 20-year-old Elders and a LOT of Groupthink. Let's don't "reach" for things to report on. people even put their voice to it, I surrender alli surrender all in a group context.

Presumably you were some sort of Christian (maybe nominal, cultural) before encountering the Only True Christians. They harmed you, and you sought refuge in legitimate but secular groups and activities.

Or is this over reaching spiritual authority bordering on verbal abuse? TO THE SHOW THAT NEVER ENDS!

He thought he was so far ahead of everyone that he could do anything he wanted. Get into that! These are MY classmates Survivors and ex-employees say the camp didn't do enough. In above comments theres mentioned someone on the taxpayer payroll engaged in trafficking minors. CM: Wasnt Koinonia House Christian Fellowship was that the brainchild of conspiracy nutjob and con artist of the now-deceased Chuck Missler? One of Us! I have this MASSIVE mental database with NO search engine, only free-association links. I agree, child molestation is at low as it can go. He was more than right. If you follow me theres a speciality

Victim accounts establish a common pattern. Its amazing how easily the NeoCals took over the SBC, given these obvious signs.

Oh, yeah, Shadowron. I think one could argue that it is stress testing all sorts of forms of social organization, including the churches. church contexts can convince many people to believe many things that are embroidered truth, complete falsehoods, dangerous to self and others. The Christians I know who seem to have been made better by their faith I can count on one hand, even though by now, Ive known thousands. Living long on planet earth gives one a perspective that fewer years dont. And why did he use a kiss to show them

It was so frequent and intense, one family filed a *restraining order against White.*. Once I think they had a fourplex small apartment building, single story, with doorless doorways knocked in the walls to connect all four units. Whoah! Newman did not have an attorney on file for the case Monday. Friend: What should elders do if younger parents in the family decided to send their children to a summer camp? Sarah Palin: We wanted to do that all along. Max, your Christianese is once more getting in the way of whatever youre trying to say.



linda: Are we guilty as charged of sinning and not believing or trusting God to be in control and if we catch it and die or kill someone else it must have been His will?

If history has anything to teach (sorry for being so clicheish) its that all movements succumb to the very inertia they sought to overcome in the first place. Kathee, Being deeply involved in this case, I have to tell you respectfully, that you are way off base regarding your predictions. For years I tried to forget about it, stuffed it away in the depths of my mind only sharing it with my wife and counselor. Especially with Evangelical cultures itchy ears for JUICY born-again Testimonies and the resulting testimony inflation. Yes the court date is this Thursday at 10:30 am in Judge Orr's courtroom at the Taney County Courthouse.

After they lost everything, they relocated and started over professionally, penniless, in Boulder. SOS?

(RZ) What lies beneath may be depraved evil. The last might have been attached to some small Fundy church in the Pomona area. These adults were groomed as cover, obviously, which is what pedophiles do.

90% of everything is crap..

I;ve been following this. linda: Somehow that is akin to fighting on Iwo Jima in their eyes. You got me thinking, since we are similar age, and from CA.A number of groups come to mind.. There is no way in he$$ Joe White did not know something was off. Maybe its just me, but I feel one of the most valuable insights of this post is when Dee had sent her daughters to this Kamp, but then her son would have NONE of it, and Dee BELIEVED HER SON! So, obliterated. According to multiple families accounts, the camp sent victims families a copious amount of Kanakuk gear, PlayStations, iPads, iPhones, and snack baskets. Anyone ever see the "Man Fairy" skit/video. Also, I suggest do not send kids to SS or youth groups. How often do kids send up red flags and we as caring parents are not paying attention. Dr jack Schaap.

According to NCOSE, Kanakuk was put on the 2022 Dirty Dozen list due to multiple reports of child abuse at its camps, including one written by David and Nancy French for The Dispatch in March 2021. It is kinda the Baptist seminary that everybody forgets. The young reformers in my area draw in the seekers with big screens, fog machines and skinny jeans. Thats not what a kiss is for?

In 2016, I wrote the following post: Peter Newman, Serving 35 Years for Molestations at Kamp Kanakuk, Was Allegedly Hired by Fellowship Memphis While Awaiting Trial. Beware of an religious leader that harps on a particular type of sin.. campers telling the truth about their camp counselor Train kids to contact parents, tell parents when something is off, ASAP? Not church in disguise. He was imprisoned following his 2010 sentencingon seven felony counts of sexually abusing boys, in connection with his role as a Kanakuk counselor. Yes. And I agree with the mom who said she sensed something kinda weird and slightly effeminate in PeteI did too.

A number of groups come to mind.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB3un06HUSY, Catholic Gate-Crasher: Was it Navigators? By Nancy Frenchand David French Dec 23, And why did they nail His feet and hands Should individuals start contacting the press/media to get the story out there? A thief was supposed to pay Correct me if wrong but the SBC would place itself on the other end of the church identity continuum. I agree - How do we go about bringing attention to this case at this point? My dad fought in the South Pacific for our freedoms. . Warning: The following account is graphic. I am so incredibly grateful for it.

G, Joplin, MO 64801. Later at a house fellowship a chief elder held an inappropriate conversation with me (they were rebaptisers too). 2) Not just pedophiles, but any SUCCESSFUL Sociopath and/or Manipulator. Fortunately, something in him realized this wasnt right, and he resisted going to that specific meeting and then left the group right after the weekend conference.

Period.

Max: DONT SEND YOUR CHILDREN TO SUMMER CAMP! (Those close to him said Kanakuk took his life from him.) Tonight, I will devote my prayers for these dear children harmed by a sicko as well as a weak and unimpressive group of leaders.

What if judges, politicians, leaders of commerce in the US have been to Kanakuk? Are Christians who run their Christian programs for children so uninformed as to not know the ins and outs of this?

Crime. Makes sense tho. Win-Win situation for the both of them. . I disagree. Does that say Jot-and-Tittle LOOPHOLE! to you? many of these things are simply the standard party line baptized with the word biblical. Absolutely livid WW about this WW, I hope the you and the #metoo kick YouTubes butt in wanting to squelch the Deshaun Watson storyyou need to watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwskYKwgFmY. On the other hand, traditional SBC churches would be on the other end of the church identity continuum for the most part. Samuel Conner: That obedience to the OT call to wisdom if you only get one thing, get wisdom. Max: My grandson is in a boy-scout-type Christian organization called Trail Life. They arent safe, they dont teach, & they misuse taxpayer money; innovations and Jesus content do not compensate for malpractice.

dee: ;ve been following this. ), he was stripped of rank and then they burned his uniform. Kinder responds to governor's State of the State a House members respond to Nixon's State of the Stat House special committee examines ethics bill, Cleaver: People have lost faith in government.

Many good Germans swore up and down that they knew nothing of the cattle cars going East and packed with Jews.

+++++++++++++++, ill have to remember that one. Anecdote time: After we got married, WELL into adulthood, we got a dog. Status hearing set for Feb. 1 for accused Rowan Fo President Obama's weekly address: The fight agains Wright-Jones backing Gov. misery! WERE SO GLAD YOU COULD ATTEND! Jeffrey Chalmers: Joe White should be in prison for life, (along with the sicko) for conspiracy. When I think about the poor leadership coming from certain American pulpits during the COVID crisis, the following Scripture comes to mind: So how in the blue-blazes did they hijack the Bible over the last 50 years or so to promote an agenda? They also directly reached out to victims, offering hunting trips and weekends away at Whites house. I think the cult like atmosphere at these religious camps feed on that youthful idealism. I have nine children under 30 (and one who turned 30 last week but is in denial). A boy does not show male sexual characteristics deep voice, facial hair, heavier body hair, prominent external genitalia until puberty. I nearly went to a group called university bible fellowship. Contrast that with Cal Poly Pomona CCC at the other end of Brea Canyon; two guys I knew who were active in CCC there (including one of my dorm roomies) were not only gamers, they introduced me to the LARP Killer (fictionalized as TAG: The Assassination Game) and said it was popular with the CCC staff. Took 10-15 years after breaking contact with My (ONLY) Brothers in Christ for the flashbacks to go away. I guess his accountability circle is somewhere out past Jupiter (see the video to understand.). A teacher that was supposed to supervise Christian Union had been carrying on with a boy (the teacher left, the boy stayed). I cannot attend right now and be sure I am loving my neighbor as myself. Former Kanakuk camp counselor Peter Newman is already serving two life sentences, plus 30 years, at the Jefferson City Correctional Center. I have read it suggested in secular settings that COVID is a stress test for state and national public health systems, and for economies.. Trying to get a handle on what really goes on. White appears to have an incredible ability to blame everybody else except him. Pete Newman committed this crime, no one else. May 26, 2022, 7:15 AM. Joe White owned the Kamp.

Just like all the SBC churches who pretend they are not SBC. It has taken 7 years for God to piece some of my heart back together. Beware of an religious leader that harps on a particular type of sin.. Jeffrey Chalmers: maybe surprise visit the place? One reason people were so into starting seeker sensitive churches is that they grew very quickly. ishy: The new SBC church here is apparently telling people they are not affiliated, but it took me 5 minutes to find them on the SBC search as well as at 9 Marks. Made of jewels and gold instead, It had to be a crown of thorns With this Kamp, it seems to have been, or maybe still is, a youth mill for predatory offenders. ", The lawsuit adds, "During each of these activities Defendant Newman falsely represented to the young Plaintiff that these behaviors were okay or normal and were not 'sinful'. They thought we should get used to married life a while longer before taking on something as complicated as dog ownership.

Both there and in a reputable interdenominational movement sentimental and manic ways spilled over into socialising (some OLD men tried to cast a devil out of a man whose speech was affected by stroke because the devil is the author of confusion). I hate to bring up this point, but it was this blog that first broke the story of Pete Newman's arrest, well before the traditional media had any idea it had occurred. Im amazed that anybody can hear the voice of God through all the screaming and fakery. He performed and received oral sex. I see so little Christ in the Christians around me. Pretty clearly, US public health system is not passing this test well. A observation from over 50 years in Evangelicalism/Fundamentalism. I call them dungeons and dragons. I dont think all of them are related, although my online searching did not include a genealogy of every group I found. For me, the camps provided opportunities to do and learn about outdoors things that my parents werent into and which I have continued into my adulthood. Dont take a chance with your kids things are not always what they seem. An aurora blankets the Earth beneath a celestial night sky-NASA, And why did he use a kiss to show them,Thats not what a kiss is for? Michael Card. Certainly, there are some good camps with good people working at them, but do you want your children to test that premise? May 26, 2022, 7:15 AM. I agree he probably won't enter a guilty plea but a plea bargain arrangement would certainly spare the boys having to testify against him in the court. Here is an early scholarly article about pandemic-related anxiety and depression in young adults: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/da.23109, Headless Unicorn Guy: I KNOW NOTHINK! My grandsons will be developing the anterior parts of their brains fishing and hiking with Papaw, while other kids go to who-knows-what-camp this summer. Just like I do in our homes and neighborhood.

And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to uphold him., Romans 14:10 But why do you judge your brother, or why also do you despise your brother? They refuse to get help and claim God will fix their problems, and their problems just get so bad that they are actively hurting those around them. Later at a big and old denomination (which had publicly abolished belief and prayer, and just before it went for trendy fogeyism) there were hysterical retreats. Pete had a different "character" each year that he would play, a big baby, a jungle boy, a man-pixie, etc. And that will probably be whittled to shock time as he has no previous record. I think my language was poorly chosen I was not implying that the pandemic was pre-meditated for the purpose of stressing systems. And Mary was the 1st to declare. I totally agree with the poster at 6:38. By now every parent should be highly aware that these awful things can happen. Praying for Gods guidance, protection, and blessing in your work here, Dee, and the same for your team, like Todd. He seems to have a better knack than his mom for avoiding molesters. Then the conversation took a strange turn. I was bitterly disappointed, as it was my one and only chance to go to a real *overnight* camp. And I wonder if he and his enablers piously intoned on their knees WE THANK THEE, LOOOOOOOOORD, THAT WE ARE NOTHING LIKE THOSE FILTHY ROMISH PEDO-PRIESTS OVER THERE?

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